July 7, 2016 at 9:16 pm #3062Nick & Ruth AndersonKeymaster
At the Ambleside meeting I, as a new boy, asked about getting gas on the continent, and got some totally contradictary opinions. We are going to the Low Countries later this month, and I am thinking about buying one refillable 7kg cylinder, and whatever gadgets are needed to fill it, and keeping one standard red bottle, to tide us over whilst we find somewhere to fill it. Is this a rubbish plan, and if it isn’t, where can I find such a bottle at a reasonable price?,
July 17, 2016 at 10:59 am #3134Nick & Ruth AndersonKeymaster
Thank you for your comprehensive reply. I have looked into it, and am now booked in with Autogas 2000 next week to have a bottle fitted,
July 8, 2016 at 11:09 pm #3066David LawsonParticipant
Hi again Nick and Ruth,
Some links as promised to show pictures and prices from various suppliers.
Everything you need for a 6kg kit from Gasit
A 6kg Gaslow refillable bottle only from Hamilton Gas, reasonably priced with free postage but Gaslow accessories, filling points etc. are much dearer, not only at Hamilton Gas but in general.
The adaptor I referred to previously to change from refillable (Butane outlet) to standard Calor Propane outlet. Dearer here at Gasit but would probably be combined in postage if ordering bottle kit.
Same adaptor her from Hamilton Gas, much cheaper but postage to consider.
The 3 part fill-point adaptors for Europe, including latest Spanish adaptor, in carry bag from Gasit. Again, would probably combine postage if bought with other items.
A complete 6kg refillable kit from Autogas 2000, including fill-point, fill=point rubber hose and POL adaptor £161.13.
July 8, 2016 at 12:15 am #3064David LawsonParticipant
Hi Nick and Ruth,
The nearest size of bottle to the 7kg you describe would be a 6kg refillable.
Are you specifying the smaller bottle because of space restrictions. Do you presently have one 6kg and one 13kg in the locker.
It may be worth meausring the space you have as a 11kg refillable, the next standard size up to a 6kg refillable, is fractionally smaller in diameter than a standard 13kg Calor propane bottle and could fit alongside your existing 13kg bottle.
ALL refillable bottles have a MALE left hand thread output which is the standard for Butane although you would normally fill it with Propane, or a mixture of both, as the case tends to be at the fuel station pumps.
The way to overcome this is to purchase an adaptor (£6 for a brass ferrule with a female thread in both ends) for the output which changes it back to the Propane standard of a FEMALE left hand thread. That way you can swap between refillable bottle and a standard Calor Propane propane bottle using your existing pigtail, which will be a MALE left hand thread. Your existing bulkhead mounted regulator where the other end of the pigtail connects to remains undisturbed and is fine.
DON’T be tempted by any supplier to purchase a direct fill bottle, wherby the filler point is directly attached to the bottle. Certainly in this country, you WILL be forbidden to refill it at the majority of forcourts.
With any type of refillable bottle you will require a filling kit which consists of a flexible rubber hose connected to the inlet filler of all bottles and terminates in a standard UK bayonet filling point which connects to the forcourt hose. Ideally the bayonet filler should be mounted so as to be external to the gas locker, either to one side, but still within the gas locker space or down through the floor of the gas locker and mounted in the vehicle skirt.
All UK bayonet filler points will accept adaptors for other countries. Tony Flanders or Rex Wade would be able to advise on the country specific adaptors. The adaptors for all countries are available as a complete kit of 3 in a handy carry bag from numerous suppliers.
There are filler points which can be mounted just inside the locker door but my experience suggests that the majority of forcourts, once again in this country, are very cagey if you are seen to open the locker door prior to refilling.
Talk to Chris Wise at Autogas 2000 at Carlton Minniot, which is about 4 miles from where I live. Chris is very approachable and if you were to visit there, you will definitley be able to collect all of the afforementioned items off the shelf. They do of course deliver.
Currently their 6kg refillable is for sale at £107.10 for a steel bottle. They are also the main importers of the Alugas aluminium refillable bottles, and although vey lightweight if payload is a problem, they are more expensive. For some reason unknown to me the 6kg Alugas bottle is recently very scarce, although there is still a plentifull supply of 11kg Alugas. It could be that most vans that can accomodate one 6kg and one 13kg Calor bottle have been found to accomodate two 11kg bottles because of the smaller footprint of the 11kg.
If payload is not a problem then a steel bottle will be fine as once fitted you will not be lifting it in and out for replacement.
I will provide links to all of the afforementioned items when I have more time so that you can see both photos and desciptions. The links provided may be from sources other than Autogas 2000 so you will see a variation of prices.
In the meantime look at the websites of Autogas 2000, Tinley-Tech, Hamilton Gas and LPGShop.
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